Daniel J Lewis Has The Audacity To Podcast & Help Others To Do Likewise

Daniel-J-Lewis-rectangleI was in the job of my dreams for a while, and I was at that company for ten years. But in the last couple of years I realized that I had accomplished every goal that I had at that company. So I started to think “What’s next?”. I’d already had an interest in podcasting and I started my first podcast – TheRamenNoodle.com (a clean comedy podcast) – while I was still at work.

Around 2010 I decided I wanted to start my own business – I just wasn’t sure how I would do it. It was my then fiance (now my wife) who encouraged me to set a goal that one year from now (ie. by 2011) I would out on my own, completely full time self-employed. So I said “yes, fine” – but I had no idea how it was going to happen.

So that’s when I launched my podcast that helps other people start podcasts – TheAudacitityToPodcast.com – and I was surprised by the response. When I started to get emails from people asking for my help to launch their podcast I realized that this was the thing that connects me to my potential clients and would enable me to launch my own business. And one year later I was able to resign from my job of ten years and I am now doing this full time and loving it too.

The decision to leave my job wasn’t an easy one for me – it took other people – my wife and a consultant i had hired – to really give me the push to do it, and I advise people now not to wait until everything is perfect, to just do it. I was fortunate in that I had enough savings that I could effectively not earn anything for the first six months if I had to.

Normally i would recommend people staying in their job as long as possible before making the hard cut. For me, I had the added factor that it was also my first year of marriage and I didn’t want to not lessen my attention to either my marriage or my business, which made trying to juggle a full time job as well too much to cope with. But I had been building up my business and did have some clients when I left my job, so at least I could hit the ground running, not starting from zero.

But as soon as I left that job for the last time I knew that I had made the right decision. It was so freeing, knowing that I was now in control of my own destiny. I now set my income. I now make my business accomplish what I want it to. BUT – at the same time that freedom can also be a burden – because I AM now in control of my own destiny.

Podcasts are great for businesses because you can find really niche topics that you are interested in that you just won’t find on the radio or television. People can find information about what they are passionate about and that makes the podcast industry much more passion focused. People can hear the passion in your voice when you podcast. If you don’t really care about the subject, you can hide that in writing, you can’t hide it in your voice.

The beauty of a podcast is that you can listen to it almost anywhere – people will listen to podcasts they love while they are mowing the yard, while they are driving, while working out at the gym. For businesses – or even individuals – who want to establish themselves as an authority, to build a following, and demonstrate their knowledge and skill, a podcast is a great way for them to demonstrate what they can do and their passion for the subject. By creating products and services for that specific niche you can monetize your podcast whilst giving the audience something they want and might not have otherwise know about.

Favorite Book:   Virtual Freedom by Chris Druckert

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Daniel-J-Lewis-rectangleGuest: Daniel J. Lewis – D.Joseph Design LLC / The Audacity to Podcast


As an award-winning podcaster, Daniel J. Lewis helps others launch and improve their own podcasts for sharing their passions and succeeding in business. Daniel creates training resources and podcasting tools, such as MyPodcastReviews.com; he offers one-on-one consulting; designs websites; speaks on podcasting, design, and social media; and Daniel hosts a network of award-nominated shows covering how to podcast, clean-comedy, and the #1 unofficial podcast for ABC’s hit drama Once Upon a Time, all available at noodle.mx.

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How Are You Filtering Your Own Reality?

Belanie Dishong is known in the entrepreneurial world as a mindset coach, and I think a lot of beginning entrepreneurs don’t realize just how important mindset is to the success of their venture. In this fascinating conversation we explore just how filtered our view of our own reality really is and where those, what Belanie calls, “core filters” come from.


Belanie: What’s been really interesting for me was I almost backed into becoming so focused on mindset. What I mean by that is it was in the mid-80s when I got into some trouble in my life — not with the law or drugs or things like that — but in trouble inside emotionally in regards to how I was dealing with, coping, and not coping in my life around relationships. That took me into a really downward spiral. It was pretty tough. Everything else seemed to work really well, but I was a mess when it came to relationships.

When I found myself in that place, I kind of heard a voice that said, “Belanie, you are the common denominator in all that there is in your life.” When I heard that, it was like, “What does that mean?” I was 35 years old and I didn’t know what that really meant to me other than yes, I could agree. I could see that, in every circumstance, I was in the center of all of it. But what did that getting that message really mean to me, and how could it take me out of the emotional suffering I was living in?

At that point, I started an inquiry process. I began looking inward at what was going on inside that made all of my common circumstances look the same around relationships. I just started some major transformation in my whole life. I called it my “downloads”. I was receiving information like crazy about how I was viewing my life. The messages said that major awareness and awakening is taking place. As that began to develop, people wanted me to teach them what I had taught to myself, so we began that process in 1993. From that, and building this whole elaborate system around how to take and manage control of your life, it trickled all the way back to the very basic place you must start: your mindset.

I recently spoke on stage at a conference in Las Vegas. A woman came up to me after I came off stage and one of the things she  said to me was, “I want to tell you, when I first found out that there was going to be a mindset conversation coming from the stage, it didn’t have anything to do with you. I had made up my mind that I did not want to listen to one more ‘rah rah’ thing around mindset.” Then she said, “Lady, I chose to stay. Even though I didn’t want to stay, I stayed. And you have rattled my cage.”

There is a little hotter conversation, Jasper, and a lot of books and stuff on mindset. But you have to learn what it really is that’s happening, and why it’s happening, and the “how to”, because we’ve been bombarded with positive thinking and, yes, it’s great to be a positive thinker, right?

But that’s trying to operate on top of something that’s not positive. So what I’ve done is I’ve learned how to get underneath what’s driving the negative. When you get there and see that, then the management of your mindset becomes absolutely natural.

Meredith:  And how do you do that, Belanie?

Belanie:  We have incredible courses and systems and programs in place that teach you how to be quiet, hear, and be led through a series of questions that have you discover that internal source. It’s not external. Mamma didn’t do it, Daddy didn’t do it, nobody did it to us. They really didn’t. We’ve just been so wrapped up in the circumstances being this cause-and-effect of our lives, called our outcomes. In the system that I’ve created and grown since 1993, we use a series of conversations. And in those conversations, a person’s awareness just opens up and they can see what it is. I call it “core filter”. They can see the filtering they’ve made up that causes their mindset to be so dominant in an area or areas, where there are repeating cycles or delivering something in their life other that what they wanted. Mine was in 1985. I had repeating cycles of relationships: marriages and divorces and crushes. Now, I’m happy to say that I am the proud owner of a 30-year relationship and a marriage of 27 of those 30 years. That’s the distinctive difference between mindset having you instead of you managing your mind!

Jasper:  Let me explore a bit further this idea that it wasn’t your parents, because it seems to me that a lot of the blame is put on the parents. We talk about this word mindset and, surely, a lot of those settings do take place in your childhood — that’s been the perception on the psychoanalysis basis. What are your thoughts on that? Is that setting come from your childhood and it just pervades until you catch it?

Belanie:  Great question, and I agree with everything you’re saying. Now, here’s my answers to your questions. Number one, yes. The best I can tell through 30 years of my own life and 22 years and thousands of my clients’ lives, it is accurate. The first seven years of our lives form exactly how we’re going to live the rest of our lives. And I can prove it over and over and over. However, the issue is we’ve come away with a belief that those first seven years were sculpted by our outside influences, our parents. Sculpted by our parents and our teachers and where we grew up in the world and where we were born and the economic environment we grew up in. That’s not the problem. Here’s I how want you to see this, Jasper, if you’ll take a second with this. If that was the problem, every child in the ghetto would be in the ghetto the rest of their lives. If it were so, every child who was ever told they weren’t going to amount to anything wouldn’t amount to anything.

So there’s something there, and this is where my inquiry really had to get deep because of the things that were occurring in my life around relationships and marriages, crushes and divorces, and all the awful stuff around relationships with me. I grew up in a family that was pretty much free of divorce. Looking at the circumstances, I made up a belief called “Marriages Work!” So I was always trying to find the marriage that was going to work. However, the issue wasn’t whether or not marriages worked. The issues were something else, a core filter. We make up things about the circumstances around us, and when we do that, they become us. We make it up. We are the problem. The good news is that we are the solution, because all we have to do is discover what these filters are and it is solved.

Belanie DishongGuest – Belanie Dishong – Live At Choice™


Belanie Dishong, founder of Live At Choice™ and the Starfisher Academy of Coaches, is an accomplished author, keynote speaker, workshop leader, and personal coach. An expert on the topic of choice, Belanie has developed a proven process and tangible tools that lead people to critical self-discovery.

Belanie works diligently to provide the deaf community access to her programs. She has developed a team of American Sign Language interpreters certified in her courses, and programs are regularly held at Gallaudet University in Washington, DC.

Belanie is the author of Roundtrip Ticket—An Exercise in Going Home to the Heart, giving readers insight into making changes to empower their success. Also, she is one of 50 influential women featured in the Amazon number one bestseller, Fearless Women, Visions of a New World, by author Mary Ann Halpin. A member of the eWomenNetwork, Belanie is also a contributor to the eWomenNetwork Foundation.

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How Terri Holley Achieved Success Through Fortitude

Today we’re interviewing Terri Holley of SuccessWithFortitude.com. Terri has been in business for 30 years and over that time she’s done a wide variety of things, from selling Amway to being a secretary, then a virtual assistant, and finally becoming a life and business coach. Terri has some amazing hints for both creating a business that you like, step-by-step. and how to involve your kids in helping with your business. She shares a lot of good, solid information on how to get started.

Terri:  I became an Amway distributor because I am a born organizer. All of my paperwork was immaculate, so when I got to our meetings to distribute all of my receipts, I had time to socialize and party. Everybody else wanted to do the same thing, so they started asking me to help them with their paperwork, which was great because I love doing paperwork. I always joke and say the funnest thing for me to do is filing. People don’t understand that filing gets you quiet time and time to think while you’re just doing your ABCs, things we learned in kindergarten. It’s easy.

So I transitioned from being an Amway distributor to becoming a secretary for Amway distributors, and I ended up doing networking. Back then, networking was something that you never really heard about. The network ended up having clients, so I went from $30 a month to hundreds of dollars a month. I thought that was great, doing something that I loved to do. Then I went into corporate America for a while because I took a secretary class and started learning how to type better and how to do different word processing tasks, things like that. That didn’t work very well for me. That’s when I knew I was a born entrepreneur. Then my family was interrupted and I ended up as a single parent with three teenagers — and you know you can’t leave teenagers by themselves! I thought, “Okay, I need money and I need to take care of these teenagers,” so I ended up going back to networking and becoming full-time in a company called “24/7”. People were actually calling me at 2:00 in the morning and saying, “I need a presentation by 8:00. Can you help me?”

Meredith:  This is a company you started, right?

Terri:  Right, out of my home. In my book, there’s an image of the office that I had. Because I didn’t have any space for office space, I divided up my living room, part for the kids and part for me. I could watch my kids and they could actually help me with things, so it worked out great.

Meredith:  That’s cool. How did you evolve from there?

Terri:  I evolved from there by moving to Atlanta. When I moved to Atlanta, I told my clients I had other secretaries who could help them. My clients kicked and screamed and said, “No, we want you!” That’s how I became a virtual assistant before there was even a title for a virtual assistant. Back in 1997, we weren’t really as embraced with the internet as we are now. I had a fax machine, telephone, and overnight mailing, and that’s how I did the business as a virtual assistant.

From there, I went back and forth doing contracts with corporate America. Then, when the economy got really bad, everyone got laid off. People needed to know how to survive, and I taught people how to have their own businesses. I started as a SCORE cyber counselor. Individuals who really couldn’t afford to pay someone to help them start their business could find me through SCORE. SCORE would get credit as well, as they had all the infrastructure set up so that I could help many people at one time. That was fantastic. I loved it.

Meredith:  What do you think is the big thing that gets in people’s ways when they’re starting a business?

Terri:  Fear. Fear and confusion gets in the way for entrepreneurs. We know what we love to do, but we really don’t know how to fit it in with everything else that needs to be done. We’re fearful to ask for help, and we really don’t know how to strategize so that we can keep things from running into themselves, especially inside our heads. That is a big issue that many people seem to need help with. I run into that a lot when I’m coaching my clients. It’s fear, confusion, and being overwhelmed. There’s just so much to do, so much information, so many offerings. Every time you open up your e-mail, there’s another offering, so you really need someone to help you strategize to keep you on your path and help you decide what’s relevant and not relevant for you. Needless to say, I get almost 300 e-mails a day.

Jasper:  So what type of people are coming to you and what kind of businesses are they looking to get help with?

Terri:  I have individuals who are doing sales, individuals who are doing entertainment, individuals who want to start a doctor’s office, but aren’t really sure. They’re coming straight out of school, and even though they work for someone, they don’t really get the nuts and bolts of the actual business part. I have other coaches who are not as experienced in business, but they have the passion and the talent to coach individuals in their area. You name it, I have had customers from all walks of life.

Meredith:  What do they all have in common, Terri?

Terri:  What I said before: confusion. Just madness, just confusion. It’s like, “Help, I don’t know which way to turn. I don’t know what to do first. I don’t know what I don’t need to do.”

Meredith:  So what is the first step you lead people through when they start working with you?

Terri:  We sit down and do a path. We actually write down what your ultimate goal is, and we start with the end in mind. As Stephen Covey says, “You start with the end in mind, and you work backwards.” From there, we define a path of what comes next. So when you get a little swayed off, as I’m sure you understand, Meredith, you can bring yourself back by just opening a book and having your marketing path or your strategy path in front of you.

I wish this was video — I have all types of lists all over my walls. There’s no sense in putting up pictures, because my brain is all over my walls! I teach people that’s okay — you just have to get it organized so that you can follow it.

Favorite Book: Positively You by Jinger Heath; A New Earth: Awakening To Your Life’s Purpose by Eckhart Tolle

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Terri HolleyGuest – Terri Holley – Success With Fortitude


Terri Holley focuses on helping Parentpreneurs create balance realizations for their business and life that are intertwined. She has helped hundreds of Entrepreneurs. She coaches those with confusion, dissatisfaction and chaotic lives.

Terri is a proud mother of three children. She was a foster mother, and the neighborhood mother. She has influenced children to excel, receive education, and learn life survival skills.

When Terri was abandoned with three teenagers, she learned survival and coping skills. She successfully raised her children and achieved her business success. Terri coaches from this experience.

Terri is has achieved numerous community awards, as well as educational credentials. She is a Master Certified Life Coach and Business Consultant. Her education track includes: University of Maryland, Women Entrepreneurs of Baltimore, and DeVry University. She will one of the first graduates from the Flex-Path MBA program at Capella University.

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Kathleen Gage’s Core Elements For A Successful Life and Business

Kathleen Gage is on a mission. She wants to inspire you to live fully, play full out, generate great revenue and leave a lasting legacy.

Kathleen is the “no-nonsense, common sense” online marketing strategist, speaker, author, product creation specialist, and owner of Power Up For Profits. She helps entrepreneurs make money online. Her clients are driven by making a difference through their own unique voice.

As an early adopter of online marketing, Kathleen is known for cutting through the fluff. She speaks and teaches about what she believes are the core elements of a successful life: accountability, integrity, honesty, and living with passion and hope.

Kathleen believes the best way to become well known in your market is to let go of the need to be well known and simply serve and create an incredible experience for all you come in contact with. Her mission includes animal rescue, respect of diversity, and contribution to community.

Kathleen:  I actually started my business in 1994 and started out as a corporate trainer. It was a natural evolution because I was in a corporate environment and went into corporate training. As I evolved in my own life and my own business, what I found is my greatest passion and my sweet spot is working with small businesses and solo entrepreneurs who really have an important message and are aware of that, and they want to get it out to market. So it’s been through many re-creations based on personal experiences, market changes, emerging markets, and the ups and downs of the economy.

Meredith:  What do you think is the biggest thing that stops people from really breaking through with their businesses? Someone can have an amazing idea and and it just never makes it. What do you think it is that’s stopping people from really making money from their businesses?

Kathleen:  One is not treating their business like a business. It’s amazing how many people say that they’re business owners, but they treat it more like a hobby than they do a business. For example, they don’t get a business license, they’re not paying taxes, and they wonder why things are not working. Or they’re not investing in their business and they’re not hiring the right business coaches. That would be one aspect.

The other aspect is fear. They are afraid of failure, so they don’t really try anything. In order to have a successful business, (1) you have to treat it like a business, and (2) you have to be willing to take risks that normally you wouldn’t be real comfortable in taking. In order to get to the next level, you have to have that willingness to fail.

I heard somebody say it recently that you have to “fail forward”. Keep moving in a forward direction, yet know that not everything you try is going to be spot on and is going to work. If you hire the right coaches, if you surround yourself with the right people, if you listen to the right podcast with the right host, you will get great information that helps you to move along quicker.

Meredith:  How do you discern whether or not an investment is going to be worth it to you? I know that in my practice as an online business manager, I did that for several years before starting the podcast and moving into a coaching practice of my own. I had clients who would spend tens of thousands of dollars on coaching and it wasn’t the right fit for them, so they basically invested for nothing. What are some steps that people can take to make sure that they’re hiring the right person and that they’ll get a good return on their investment?

Kathleen:  That is such a great question, Meredith. The first thing to do is really look at who you are. What’s important to you? What are your values? What is it you want to accomplish in your business? Then, based on that, look for people who are in alignment with your particular direction.

For example, one of the coaches I recently had for a couple of years was a great coach for me. She’s a “take no prisoners” kind of coach and she worked really well for me. For other people, she wouldn’t have been the best coach for them because she was a little too direct. She wasn’t a touchy-feely kind of person, and somebody might need that more of the “comfort” kind of coach.

You have to find somebody that is going to be a good match for who you are. Talk to people who have coached with that particular coach and then do your due diligence, do your research, do your homework, and don’t make decisions based on emotions and impulse. That’s really difficult, because a lot of selling is about emotion. Take what I call a “cooling down” period. I recently signed a client who we actually took about three or four weeks of having conversations, with me trying to talk her out of hiring me. I wanted to make sure she was really clear on the kind of coach I am and what the whole process would entail.

Also, you’ll want to determine if you are willing to do the work. A lot of people hire coaches, or they’ll buy information products, or they’ll go to seminars, and they think that they’re doing something productive, but they never implement the information. You have to be willing to put the time and effort into what your coach or consultant is helping you to do.

Meredith:  I think that’s really important, because many times people hire coaches at events. There’s a lot of emotion and the whole event has been very carefully orchestrated to lead you to this shining moment where you step across the threshold and into your new life. That’s awesome, but I ask today’s listeners to listen to what Kathleen just said. The coaching program will still be there — next time.

Kathleen:  Absolutely. And if somebody says it’s not, then they’re probably not the best coach to hire. I host my own three-day events and small mastermind groups, and I make offers where it can be as much as $30,000 for somebody to enroll. With some people I can tell right away they’re not going to be a good fit.

I had a woman recently who had bought a program from me called “A Deep Dive”. It was about an $8,000 program. Then she wanted to go into my year-long program, but I knew she wouldn’t be well served by the year-long program. That was a pretty substantial investment for her to make and a pretty substantial sale for me to make. But I told her no. I said, “I’m not going to sign you up. You’re not ready for it.” She said, “But I’m willing to pay the money.” I said, “No, that’s not the issue. The issue is, it’s not going to be a good fit for you. You’re not going to get a result, and then you’re just going to feel like it was a waste of your investment.” So it’s also a matter of the consultant, the coach, the mentor, being willing to say “no” when somebody is not a good fit.

Jasper:  The last thing you want is a whole bunch of people who feel like they’ve wasted their money, because that’s not going to do your reputation any good whatsoever, is it?

Kathleen:  You’re so right, Jasper, because it really is a matter of finding the right personalities who gel with each other. For example, I have a high level coaching program where I limit it to 10 people. There’s one spot where I’m waiting for the right person to come along. I’ve had a few people who have wanted to fill that spot, but I won’t let them because I want to be fair to the other people who have invested in that program. We do three masterminds a year, so there has to be a good fit for everybody when we all get together.

Kathleen GageGuest – Kathleen Gage – Power Up For Profits


If you would like to read my whole story – its a long one – you can do that here. One of my pet peeves is when people don’t have much at all to complain about and yet, they do. They say, “I don’t have time, money, knowledge, connections, etc. so I can’t succeed.”

Or those who try to get something for nothing and then wonder why their business is not working.

I know people who have incredible obstacles and yet, make things work.

I know, to the core of my being, one of my greatest purposes in business is to lift people up who are willing to answer their life calling regardless of what challenges lay ahead. I also know I am to call people on their crap when all I hear is excuse after excuse. I’m here to help push them to points they didn’t think they could go and when they succeed, to enable them to experience a great sense of accomplishment.

It is a philosophy that I use for myself to be successful, and what you can expect of me for your own business.

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When Your World is Turned Upside Down Reconnect With What Really Matters

Our guest today is Jane Duncan-Rogers of Wild Wisdom. Her husband passed away from cancer, and it completely turned her business upside down. The lesson she learned added a lot more meaning and depth to what she was doing, so her business actually increased. What she teaches now is how to do everything upside down and backwards. It’s a really interesting  and informative interview and the great thing about it is Jane’s completely different attitude towards looking at the importance of money and the importance of enjoying what you do. It’s definitely well worth listening to.


Jane:  I already had a coaching business, and it was going okay. I was just following people online, and it was working okay, relatively speaking, but not quite as fast as I would have liked. Then my husband was diagnosed with cancer, and within a year he had died. Everything turned upside down. While we were dealing with him having cancer and not knowing what that meant, my attention was not really on my work as much as it might have been. After he died, I couldn’t work any more in the same way that I had been working, so I just had to stop. I did carry on seeing a few individual clients, but I didn’t do any of my online programs or anything like that.

Within the space of about 15 months, though, a whole new re-brand happened. It happened as I sat beside the hospital bed with my husband when he died, in that moment, because when somebody’s dies, they’re alive until the very moment when they’re not. I know it sounds a bit obvious, but there I was, watching this happen. And in one moment — not even a minute — one moment, he was there as I’ve always known him in his body, not very well at all, of course… and the next moment he wasn’t there.

I’ve heard people say that before and I’d seen it happen before, but somehow with him he was suddenly not there any more. He was so much not there that I couldn’t look at his body any more. I had to address the ceiling and stare anywhere other than look at this empty bag, which is what it felt like. Anyway, a few weeks later it occurred to me that if that was an empty bag, then what is this body here that I’m in? You know, this is a filled bag, so what is it filled with? And that became a quest for me. I was quite obsessed with it, actually.

I thought I knew that I was not a body, you know, from the statements that we hear sometimes in spiritual circles: “You’re not your body. You’re not your mind. You’re not your emotions.” I knew it intellectually, but I didn’t really know it. And one of the things that happened in terms of my coaching was that I was awakened one morning at 4:00 a.m. and I heard these words in my head, “wild and cheeky wisdom”, and I just knew that I would be using these somehow in my work. I just didn’t know how. So that’s how it became Wild Wisdom Coaching. I didn’t use the word “cheeky” because I discovered that it means different things in different countries.

Wild Wisdom is really about looking at things very differently. For me personally, it meant bringing in the whole dimension of my creativity, my doodling drawing. All of the drawings that you see on my site are done by me. It’s about upside down thinking, back-to-front thinking, supposedly the wrong way round thinking, and being willing to do that. Maybe through making yourself a little bit uncomfortable in the process, you get a very different perspective on your situation. You take different actions as a result of that and, of course, you get different results. So that’s really how I’ve got to where Wild Wisdom is today.

Jasper:  So what were you doing, and how did that change? Can you give us a couple of examples of how your approach just changed like that?

Jane:  I had a lot more confidence because I was connected to the thing that really mattered to me, which was knowing who I really am. I know that sounds a little bit trite. I’m not talking about a personality. I’m talking about something much bigger than that.  I had a very good coach at the time, and she was really encouraging me to step forward or out. As soon as I put up a new website, which took a long time, I also doubled my prices. I started to get far more high-end clients. I was able to start bringing in income again, which was really needed by this time because I still had the debts that we had from two incomes, but now it was only one of us — me.

I’m just now getting back into doing programs as well. Everything’s different. It has a different flavor to it. It’s really hard to talk about this because it looks the same, but the quality of it is different. I hope that explains it. Before, I was running Rich Thinkers Coaching and focusing with people on their mindset and money. Now, it looks similar at the moment, but I would say it’s coming much more from a spiritual place. And much more risky thinking. Not any of the usual law of attraction stuff. In fact, I went off the law of attraction completely. I could not understand how that could possibly apply in a situation where my husband got cancer and died. I just couldn’t work that one out at all, so I kind of went off all that kind of stuff and self-help books and things like that, which is pretty strong for somebody who’s been in this business for 25 years or so.

Meredith:  If you were to talk to someone at the very beginning of their journey, what would be a first step to breaking free? You know, they’re in a business and it’s stalled, it isn’t going anywhere, or they’re in that corporate job and they feel really stuck.

Jane:  I would encourage them to use my favorite mantra, which is, “Stop. Be still. Listen. And only then act.” Now. it sounds really simple. Putting it into practice is something else altogether, because mostly in our society we all want to go really fast. There’s a lot of emphasis on getting things now and getting it done so you have more time so then you can do this and then you can do that. Actually, I still have that sometimes, but I know now that when I feel like I’m buzzing and going fast (which is pretty addictive), what I need to do is stop and just pause, take a breath or two, still my body.

And when I say “listen” (the third part of the mantra), that is an inner listening. It could be that you hear something in your mind’s eye. It could be that you just tune into how your body’s feeling. It could be that you have an image come to mind or what happens in that moment is that there is space for a creative impulse to come through. And sometimes you don’t even know. Sometimes it’s not as clear as that. But when you then take the action that you were going to take, which might be exactly the same action as before, it’s imbued with a different quality. And when it’s imbued with a different quality, because it’s a more connected quality, then you start to get a different type of result. Usually the results are different. Sometimes they’re better than what you could ever in your wildest dreams have imagined, and you’ll experience the pleasure and joy of the satisfaction that comes from taking those actions, whatever they are…

Favorite Book: Busting Loose From the Business Game by Robert Sheinfeld

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